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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 1, 2012 8:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Songs I Always Skip?

Poaching JOTS subject matter from yesterday....

Tons of Steel
France
Blow Away
We Can Run But We Can't Hide (I hold the current world's records for skipping and projectile vomiting because of this smarmy, drippy, gooey, protest topic du jour "song")
Just a Little Light

and at the risk of being called a blasphemer (or worse)

Here Come Sunshine. I just don't get it. There must be some deconstructive interference with the frequencies and harmonics in this song that clashes with my body's cellular resonant frequency.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 2, 2012 6:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Wow. I didn't see this till now ... um, what percentage of all GD songs have been named? Maybe 75 percent?!?

My only "always skips" are the Brent ones, I think.

I'm fairly likely to skip Alabama Getaway and Hell in a Bucket. Maybe Essau, Throwin Stones, Don't Ease Me In, Miracle ... depends on mood.

OK, I guess I might have some "blasphemy" skips. Sometimes I skip Feel Like a Stranger, though it can also jam awfully nicely. And sometimes Candyman. Just not always in the mood for it. (Yet I'll seldom skip Black Peter. Go figure.)

I vote with Snori on the Traffic/Beatles etc covers, although they're not "always skips," just "mostly." I can get sucked into a Mr. Fantasy.

I'll skip an encore OMNS or US Blues. Particularly if the last part of a show is great; then it's sort of a different mood that I might not be into. Given that I'm not about to go out to the car or anything.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 3, 2012 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

I am REAL late , but I am surprised how many songs make peoples skip list ! Some pretty grumpy Head out there ! Your take seems the closed to mine . Some shows I do make "highlights" of (one c.d.), or "pruned" versions (lose a Throwing Stones, LLR, or drums, to fit it on 2 cds). I always have a certain percentage of complete shows in a given year (even 95 !). An most pre Brent era stuff, I want it all !
I feel the way you do about OMSN, or US Blues , especially as time went on .
Before I edit a show, I do read all the write ups," Ok so you say this is an exceptional Rooster, so I will keep it this time " ,sort of thing . Sometimes I will skip the Jerry , E72 songs, as I think they sound weak later in their history . I love Garcia's ballad/slow songs, but sometimes "Ship of Fools" gets cut . But , there is no song I skip every time . I love the Grateful Dead .

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Feb 1, 2012 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Here's one that might be considered blasphemy:

Sugaree. Just a song I am completely bored of. They all sound the same to me, the song is too long, and just inspired very few "Wow" moments for me.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Feb 1, 2012 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

"Sugaree. Just a song I am completely bored of. They all sound the same to me, the song is too long, and just inspired very few "Wow" moments for me."

When I got tired of Sugaree I started listening to the JGB versions instead and that kept me pretty happy. I usually find the song much more enjoyable when Jerry played it without the Dead. Same with Deal.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 1, 2012 11:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Good call on Deal. I think there are two that "do it" for me,the rest I happily move past.

Sugaree I'm on the fence with, especially when you throw in the early 80's versions, many of which are ridiculous (Lake Placid and Anchorage head up the group)

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Poster: zeroenvy Date: Feb 1, 2012 6:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

i love the slipknot > franklins transition but i hate slipknot I usually skip to the last 2 minutes before the transition to franklins tower.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Feb 1, 2012 7:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Around And Around
Johnny B. Goode
It's All Over Now
Disco Mexicalis
All New Minglewood Blues
All Brent Songs except 'Just A Little Light'
Any 'U.S. Blues' where Jerry forgets the words

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2012-02-02 03:10:22

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Poster: user unknown Date: Feb 1, 2012 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Tuning
Drums
Space

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Feb 2, 2012 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Yes ,yes,Tuning,drums,space, unwarrented feedback,lame stage banter,slow stupid cowboy songs.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Feb 6, 2012 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

"slow stupid cowboy songs"

I know not of what you speak. The "Rockstar" is a competent cowboy balladeer

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Feb 1, 2012 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Sunrise
Brown-Eyed Women
Casey Jones
Johnny B Goode
Don't Ease Me In
Good Lovin', Lovelight, etc. sung by Bob
Easy To Love You
You Can Run
Never Trust A Good Times Woman
Victim or the Crime (live - like the studio version)
One More Saturday Night
Liberty
Sugaree
Lazy Lightnin; (but not Supplication!)
Stagger Lee

less than I would have expected, though there are some that I skip frequently -
Estimated Prophet
Samson & Delilah
High Time (woozy vocals)
Minglewood
Friend of the Devil
Black Peter
CC Rider
Little Red Rooster
Drums
Saint of Circumstance
Terrapin

This post was modified by fenario80 on 2012-02-01 20:30:41

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Poster: Memphis Blues Date: Feb 1, 2012 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

I wouldn't imagine skipping Brent songs will be too uncommon. There are a few "first set" songs that I often skip, though I will stop short from saying always:

Tennessee Jed (I feel like this one got stretched farther out than necessary)
Mexicali Blues
Dancin' in the Streets (disco version): Love the early ones but the later versions irk me

Also:
Bob's versions of Pig Pen songs
Seastones! I suppose that's unfair. Maybe those performances were interesting live but on tape it's just too weird for me.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 1, 2012 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

MB -

I'd put Seastones in the same category as most Drums/Space. Not necessarily a "Skip" in and of itself, but a great time to go pay the water bill.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Feb 1, 2012 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

I'd be paying the water bill at the Shoreline Amphitheater but the music was piped in

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 1, 2012 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

We can run, but we can't hide?

Dammit, where's the skip button.......?!?!?!

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Poster: Memphis Blues Date: Feb 1, 2012 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Though I don't listen to much "end era" Dead (93-95), Corrina is a song that's a definite skip when I do. But usually I'm listening to those shows just for Foolish Heart, So Many Roads, Days Between etc.

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Poster: snori Date: Feb 1, 2012 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

All the Traffic/Spencer Davis/Beatles/Stones/Who covers that are just so wrong for the Grateful Dead.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 1, 2012 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

When seeking to maximize space on the 'ol iPod, I finally remembered I could sort my entire catalog by song and then "uncheck all" the songs I can live without.

Some examples that jump to mind:
LLR
Any Brent tune
Any Donna tune (does not apply to tunes WITH donna)
Tuning (surprising amount of space opened up with this taken out)
"Take A Step Back"
Most Drumz>Space (yes, there are some really good ones, but do you really want to listen to an entire section in the car?)
Terrapin (again, there are a few good ones, but given the amount of space this opened up, it was worth the sacrifice)
Lost Sailor (I've never like this tune, despite Bobs best efforts at lashing his mast) note: yes, I've kept Circumstance because I've found quite a few that I happen to really enjoy
Good Lovin' (A. I have tired of Pig's raps, and B. Bob's versions contain nothing of value)

By selectively removing certain songs from my overall playlist, I opened up a surprising amount of space and now spend much less time each week having to pick and choose which shows I want to have on hand.

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: Feb 1, 2012 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Always skip:
Weather Report
Drums w/ Mickey
Throwing Stones
Donna/Brent led tunes
Most later songs (Corrina, Rain, Picasso Moon, etc.)
Lovelight w/ Bobby
Last time, day job, hey Jude, etc. (cheesy encore covers)

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Feb 1, 2012 9:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Very few are "always" skips.

LLR unless it is a recommended 5 star version.
MSWS again unless it is rated at a high level
Don't Ease & Day Job - mainly because these two are one and done get us to limo/toilet on time songs - nothing happening here.
TJ unless it is reviewed as being stellar.
All Vince songs - regardless as there are no 5 star versions

There are a few quality versions of Brent's tunes, so I don't skip them immediately...but 90% of the time its a skip. I love his playing and vocals, but...

Gimme Some Lovin' can test my tolerance for sketchy vocals...fun when seen live but not so much on tape.

Lovelight after the Bobby treatment is pretty hurting, but there are highly rated versions - I'll check them out. The Moscone Center version from May '82 is very groovy.

In reality if I'm listening to a show I play it straight through, I'll go to the fridge for a beer during songs I can enjoy from the other room. But if I'm hunting and pecking through a show I will skip certain tunes for sure.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Feb 2, 2012 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Mexicali
Mama Tried
Mr Fantasy/Hey Jude
Victim Or Crime
Greatest Story
Corrina
Hell In A Bucket
Day Job
Foolish Heart
Drums... (Well Almost Always)
Easy To Love
Two Souls In Communion
They Love Each Other
Around and Around
Samba In The Rain
Baba O'Reilly
Any Beatles Cover





This post was modified by Purple Gel on 2012-02-02 16:31:16

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Poster: Memphis Blues Date: Feb 2, 2012 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Pardon my nitpicking, please, but do you skip all TLEO's or just the slow ones? I think the upbeat versions from 73 were great; it's a shame they slowed it down and made it really drag.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Feb 2, 2012 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Totally agree on TLEO - the slow ones are a drag.

Probably heresy here - but I skip a lot of the Dylan covers... just unbearable.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 2, 2012 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Blasphemy on the disses for TLEO! (May I humbly recommend almost any from '77, or at the very least the Dicks Picks Vol. 18 from 2/3-5 '78? Killer Jerry solo in that one.)

My list of always skipped tunes:

LLR (even from my favorite all-time show of 10/29/77. I simply can't stomach this tune.)

Almost anything on "Built to Last" with the exception of "Foolish Heart"

Sunrise (doesn't present much of a problem.)

Wave at the Wind (I mean, seriously...really? Wave at the freaking wind?)

Two Souls in Communion ...also Half-hour long Good Lovin's & Lovelights (I love just about everything else Pig does, just so we're clear.)

Black Muddy River (yeah, yeah, go ahead and tell me how "soulful", "heartfelt", and "poignant" it is...it's slower than molasses in January and Jerry always sounds like a frog being pureed in a blender.)

The feedback/make-your-Dog-poop-the-rug sections of every Dark Star from roughly 1972-1974. Take those parts out and you have some of the finest music ever performed, but I just don't see the point of putting my ears through that crap (yeah, I know--it's possibly meant to evoke the sound of a Dark Star actually pouring its light into ashes, but it's still about as musically entertaining as Spinal Tap's "Freeform Jazz Odyssey" played at the infamous twin bill they shared with the puppet show.

oh, and Seastones (see above.)



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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 2, 2012 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Post of the Year

"....sounds like a frog being pureed in a blender.

"....make-your-Dog-poop-the-rug sections of every Dark Star from roughly 1972-1974."

Post of the Year....so far.

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Poster: b42l0ng Date: Feb 2, 2012 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Post of the Year

79-95

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Poster: grateful phishmon Date: Feb 5, 2012 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

Your explanation of why you skip HCS is about as good as anything I could come up with to explain the inexplicable. That's far from the worst blasphemy here, though. Feel Like a Stranger? Estimated?? Weather Report Suite??? The meltdown section of Dark Star???????? (I don't have a pet; I could see if my pet were wetting the rug.) Now, I myself will always skip Seastones (hideous noise by Phil and Ned without any context), and often skip

We Can Run (totally agree with the OP's assessment of this song)
Far From Me
Easy to Love You
Long Way to Hear This
It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Long, Slow, Wordy Dylan Tune to Make Me Hit Fast-Forward

and a few others. But I would never skip Sunrise, though I might have to pull over if I'm driving. That song brings the tears flowing. If you give me shit for that, you are empty and hollow and can remain that way for all I care.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Feb 1, 2012 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

"and at the risk of being called a blasphemer (or worse)

Here Come Sunshine."

As long as we're blaspheming: Black Peter. What a drag! Second set is rockin' along and BAM! A fuckin' funeral dirge pops up. Hell, I'd rather listen to Wharf Rat than BP.

And, I will second the Good Lovin' dis: Why, oh, why?
You've got the makings of a killer second set, such as below,

d2t03 - Deal
d2t04 - Sugar Magnolia
d2t05 - Casey Jones
d2t06 - Good Lovin'
d2t07 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
d2t08 - Saint Stephen ->
d2t09 - Not Fade Away ->
d2t10 - Uncle John's Band
Grateful Dead - April 4, 1971
Manhattan Center - New York, NY


AND somebody thought that NOT only was Good Lovin a good idea but that it should be a Twenty-fuckin-five minute version? Seriously?


That is all,
Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: zeroenvy Date: Feb 1, 2012 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

"As long as we're blaspheming: Black Peter. What a drag! Second set is rockin' along and BAM! A fuckin' funeral dirge pops up. Hell, I'd rather listen to Wharf Rat than BP."

hahaha my thoughts exactly. however it seems sometimes i will skip a song for a long time then one day it clicks and i really enjoy it.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Feb 2, 2012 12:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

"i will skip a song for a long time then one day it clicks and i really enjoy it. "

Wharf Rat; He's Gone... Seems like the Jerry ballads take a while for me.

"Patience is a virtue."
Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: reviewr Date: Feb 1, 2012 7:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs I Always Skip?

NONE! It's all part of the GD experience.

That doesn't mean I don't favor some years, and rarely listen to others. But, I don't skip songs.